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		<title>By: Leticia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leticia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 04:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jocelyne, you&#039;ve hit upon my approach! As the mother of a child with Down syndrome, I just wait for those opportunities to come up, and since Christina(age 5) is always with me, there is no shortage of them! I usually don&#039;t have to say much, her sweet, active, and loving presence says it all. &lt;br/&gt;She is the reason I blog, to share the joy she has brought into my life, in hopes that lives will be spared. &lt;br/&gt;If someone responds that they couldn&#039;t possibly raise a child like her I would say, &quot;I thought the same thing, till I had her, and God has been with me every step of the way!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jocelyne, you&#8217;ve hit upon my approach! As the mother of a child with Down syndrome, I just wait for those opportunities to come up, and since Christina(age 5) is always with me, there is no shortage of them! I usually don&#8217;t have to say much, her sweet, active, and loving presence says it all. <br />She is the reason I blog, to share the joy she has brought into my life, in hopes that lives will be spared. <br />If someone responds that they couldn&#8217;t possibly raise a child like her I would say, &#8220;I thought the same thing, till I had her, and God has been with me every step of the way!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://www.conversiondiary.com/2007/06/when-casual-conversation-turns-controversial.html/comment-page-1#comment-2567</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our parish preist told us a story at our mom&#039;s group recently about this very topic. Before he entered seminary and was still in high school (he is a very young priest), he was doing some pro-life work somewhere. He struck up a conversation with a militant pro-abortionist. He did a really, really bad job at presenting the pro-life case. He said he worried about it for months and was so embarrassed he never wanted to talk to anyone about controversial issues again. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A year later, he randomly ran into this woman elsewhere. She told him that his youth and earnestness had really stuck with her, even though he hadn&#039;t said much intelligently and how she was now reading about the Catholic faith. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You just never know how the Lord is going to use you. This man obviously knew that the Catholic pregnant woman with two small children probably disagreed with him. Maybe your polite, non-aggressive response will speak to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our parish preist told us a story at our mom&#8217;s group recently about this very topic. Before he entered seminary and was still in high school (he is a very young priest), he was doing some pro-life work somewhere. He struck up a conversation with a militant pro-abortionist. He did a really, really bad job at presenting the pro-life case. He said he worried about it for months and was so embarrassed he never wanted to talk to anyone about controversial issues again. </p>
<p>A year later, he randomly ran into this woman elsewhere. She told him that his youth and earnestness had really stuck with her, even though he hadn&#8217;t said much intelligently and how she was now reading about the Catholic faith. </p>
<p>You just never know how the Lord is going to use you. This man obviously knew that the Catholic pregnant woman with two small children probably disagreed with him. Maybe your polite, non-aggressive response will speak to him.</p>
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		<title>By: melanieb</title>
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		<dc:creator>melanieb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to be of the &quot;uh-huh&quot; school myself. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I always thing of the clever thing to say about ten minutes after the opportunity has passed (if I think of it at all.) I&#039;m terribly shy around strangers even if the subject of conversation is non-confrontational. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Knowing that about myself, after these sorts of encounters, I follow the advice of many of your respondents and memorize a good response. Then, naturally, that guarantees the subject will never come up again in such a way that the response will be useful.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m always amazed at people who can speak up boldly for the truth and always have a good response. My husband for example, when an  acquaintance told him he&#039;d had a vasectomy, my husband said: &quot;I&#039;m sorry,&quot; and left it at that. Short and to the point.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I like the idea of asking the Holy Spirit for help. I try to remember to do so ever since the first time I saw that bit of good advice. But I&#039;m usually so flummoxed I forget to even do that until it&#039;s too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to be of the &#8220;uh-huh&#8221; school myself. </p>
<p>I always thing of the clever thing to say about ten minutes after the opportunity has passed (if I think of it at all.) I&#8217;m terribly shy around strangers even if the subject of conversation is non-confrontational. </p>
<p>Knowing that about myself, after these sorts of encounters, I follow the advice of many of your respondents and memorize a good response. Then, naturally, that guarantees the subject will never come up again in such a way that the response will be useful.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m always amazed at people who can speak up boldly for the truth and always have a good response. My husband for example, when an  acquaintance told him he&#8217;d had a vasectomy, my husband said: &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry,&#8221; and left it at that. Short and to the point.</p>
<p>I like the idea of asking the Holy Spirit for help. I try to remember to do so ever since the first time I saw that bit of good advice. But I&#8217;m usually so flummoxed I forget to even do that until it&#8217;s too late.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I think you did a great job!  His own testimony damned himself, and he knew that.  You didn&#039;t have to say anything.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;whimsy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think you did a great job!  His own testimony damned himself, and he knew that.  You didn&#8217;t have to say anything.</p>
<p>whimsy</p>
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		<title>By: P</title>
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		<dc:creator>P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In answer to your question, &quot;what are we supposed to do in situations like this?&quot; the correct answer is, &quot;sanctify the Lord Christ in your hearts, being ready always to satisfy every one that asketh you a reason of that hope which is in you.&quot; (1 Peter 3:15)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So, objectively, you did the wrong thing.  That&#039;s what I usually do, too :(&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I believe it was Ovid who said, &quot;I know of the better way, and approve of it; I follow the worse.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I can really sympathize with your plight, though.  I have two major problems in those situations: one, I am a coward, and two, I fight really, really dirty.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So not only do I not want to say anything, I know that if I do, I will probably do it wrong.  It is just that I hate error and illogic, and attack them ruthlessly.  Sometimes there is &quot;collateral damage&quot; when I am dealing with people who don&#039;t know me really well and how analytical I am. :(&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I honestly don&#039;t dislike people for being murderers, but most people assume that if you call them a murderer you don&#039;t like them, and I just don&#039;t know what else to call people who deliberately kill innocent people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In answer to your question, &#8220;what are we supposed to do in situations like this?&#8221; the correct answer is, &#8220;sanctify the Lord Christ in your hearts, being ready always to satisfy every one that asketh you a reason of that hope which is in you.&#8221; (1 Peter 3:15)</p>
<p>So, objectively, you did the wrong thing.  That&#8217;s what I usually do, too <img src='http://www.conversiondiary.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I believe it was Ovid who said, &#8220;I know of the better way, and approve of it; I follow the worse.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can really sympathize with your plight, though.  I have two major problems in those situations: one, I am a coward, and two, I fight really, really dirty.</p>
<p>So not only do I not want to say anything, I know that if I do, I will probably do it wrong.  It is just that I hate error and illogic, and attack them ruthlessly.  Sometimes there is &#8220;collateral damage&#8221; when I am dealing with people who don&#8217;t know me really well and how analytical I am. <img src='http://www.conversiondiary.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I honestly don&#8217;t dislike people for being murderers, but most people assume that if you call them a murderer you don&#8217;t like them, and I just don&#8217;t know what else to call people who deliberately kill innocent people.</p>
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		<title>By: Fr. Michael Bertrand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fr. Michael Bertrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 01:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a nasty situation, and it was quite possibly a no-winner.  I commend you for keeping your cool and not snapping.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A few months back I ended up in a heated argument with a carpenter we hired to do some work in our sanctuary.  Turns out he was a semi-militant atheist and he wanted to pick a fight with me.  I was very unprepared for the argument (Figured he knew who we were and what we believed).  The argument ended with my inviting him to church so he could see what we&#039;re all about. He hasn&#039;t come, but he does know that he&#039;s welcome.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hindsight is always 20/20, but in the moment it&#039;s hard to know what to say and how to say it. As others have said, don&#039;t beat yourself up.  It would have been really easy to blow up and beat the guy up with words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a nasty situation, and it was quite possibly a no-winner.  I commend you for keeping your cool and not snapping.</p>
<p>A few months back I ended up in a heated argument with a carpenter we hired to do some work in our sanctuary.  Turns out he was a semi-militant atheist and he wanted to pick a fight with me.  I was very unprepared for the argument (Figured he knew who we were and what we believed).  The argument ended with my inviting him to church so he could see what we&#8217;re all about. He hasn&#8217;t come, but he does know that he&#8217;s welcome.  </p>
<p>Hindsight is always 20/20, but in the moment it&#8217;s hard to know what to say and how to say it. As others have said, don&#8217;t beat yourself up.  It would have been really easy to blow up and beat the guy up with words.</p>
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		<title>By: lyrl</title>
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		<dc:creator>lyrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 21:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It happens even with people who aren&#039;t strangers.  The topic of late term abortion came up at my Bible study once - specifically, in the case of Tay-Sachs disease (no known treatment or cure, certain death by the age of four).  The Rabbi was supportive of abortion in cases of diagnosed Tay-Sachs - I asked what he thought was the moral thing to do if a child was not diagnosed until after birth.  He replied that situation was why everyone should be tested, to make sure no children are born with the disease!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I was so shocked I just dropped the subject.  I hope that if it ever comes up again I&#039;ll be more brave and explore the issue with him by more questions as stevek suggested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It happens even with people who aren&#8217;t strangers.  The topic of late term abortion came up at my Bible study once &#8211; specifically, in the case of Tay-Sachs disease (no known treatment or cure, certain death by the age of four).  The Rabbi was supportive of abortion in cases of diagnosed Tay-Sachs &#8211; I asked what he thought was the moral thing to do if a child was not diagnosed until after birth.  He replied that situation was why everyone should be tested, to make sure no children are born with the disease!</p>
<p>I was so shocked I just dropped the subject.  I hope that if it ever comes up again I&#8217;ll be more brave and explore the issue with him by more questions as stevek suggested.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 19:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you all -- every single comment has been helpful to me! You guys are the best!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all &#8212; every single comment has been helpful to me! You guys are the best!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jen,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Try not to be too hard on yourself. I think that something great can come out of this if you spend a little time reviewing the great comments you have received, and create a game plan for next time. I agree with the first commenter, &quot;These things never come up in conversation when you&#039;re prepared, do they?&quot;. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Your post reminded me of a breakdown I had last week, when I was at the immunizations clinic with my little set (this is a whole other story about *my* non-confrontationalism, since I&#039;m not even comfortable with immunizations in the first place). Anyway, there was a lady there with her two grown handicapped daughters. I&#039;m not sure if they were twins, because she didn&#039;t say, but they were around the same age, and apparently had the same mental handicap. They were fascinated by my two perfect little ones, and I told their mom that they could play with them if it was OK with her. I held back a flood of tears as their faces lit up, and they made my baby boy laugh. I wasn&#039;t emotional over them though, but as I looked into their mother&#039;s tired, grateful eyes, it was all I could do to not leap out of my seat and throw my arms around her. I don&#039;t pretend to understand things like why babies are born handicapped, but I do know that suffering produces gold in us, if we let it. I think that she was letting her daughters refine her. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We don&#039;t want to be refined though, therefore we run from suffering. There is no other reason why a person would rather destroy a life than be &quot;stuck&quot; caring for it. IMO.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Jen, let me just take this chance to say, I LOVE your blog. I look so forward to reading it everyday! Keep up the good work.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Sarah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jen,</p>
<p>Try not to be too hard on yourself. I think that something great can come out of this if you spend a little time reviewing the great comments you have received, and create a game plan for next time. I agree with the first commenter, &#8220;These things never come up in conversation when you&#8217;re prepared, do they?&#8221;. </p>
<p>Your post reminded me of a breakdown I had last week, when I was at the immunizations clinic with my little set (this is a whole other story about *my* non-confrontationalism, since I&#8217;m not even comfortable with immunizations in the first place). Anyway, there was a lady there with her two grown handicapped daughters. I&#8217;m not sure if they were twins, because she didn&#8217;t say, but they were around the same age, and apparently had the same mental handicap. They were fascinated by my two perfect little ones, and I told their mom that they could play with them if it was OK with her. I held back a flood of tears as their faces lit up, and they made my baby boy laugh. I wasn&#8217;t emotional over them though, but as I looked into their mother&#8217;s tired, grateful eyes, it was all I could do to not leap out of my seat and throw my arms around her. I don&#8217;t pretend to understand things like why babies are born handicapped, but I do know that suffering produces gold in us, if we let it. I think that she was letting her daughters refine her. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t want to be refined though, therefore we run from suffering. There is no other reason why a person would rather destroy a life than be &#8220;stuck&#8221; caring for it. IMO.</p>
<p>Jen, let me just take this chance to say, I LOVE your blog. I look so forward to reading it everyday! Keep up the good work.</p>
<p>Sarah</p>
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		<title>By: Sarahndipity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarahndipity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can relate - I&#039;m also extremely non-confrontational. (At least in &quot;real life&quot; - online it&#039;s a different story). :) I honestly don’t know what I would have said in that situation – probably the same thing you did. I agree with Mrs. Darwin that what he said was very inappropriate.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The weird thing is, I love to discuss and debate issues with people, especially people who disagree with me, but it seems like so many people either A) don’t want to talk about such things because it makes them uncomfortable, so they talk about Grey’s Anatomy instead, or B) aren’t capable of disagreeing with someone without getting angry. (I find that A is often the case in real life and B is often the case online).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can relate &#8211; I&#8217;m also extremely non-confrontational. (At least in &#8220;real life&#8221; &#8211; online it&#8217;s a different story). <img src='http://www.conversiondiary.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I honestly don’t know what I would have said in that situation – probably the same thing you did. I agree with Mrs. Darwin that what he said was very inappropriate.  </p>
<p>The weird thing is, I love to discuss and debate issues with people, especially people who disagree with me, but it seems like so many people either A) don’t want to talk about such things because it makes them uncomfortable, so they talk about Grey’s Anatomy instead, or B) aren’t capable of disagreeing with someone without getting angry. (I find that A is often the case in real life and B is often the case online).</p>
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