Comments on: "Going to be with Jesus" http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/05/going-to-be-with-jesus.html Sun, 12 Feb 2012 04:43:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: The story of a friendship | Conversion Diary http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/05/going-to-be-with-jesus.html/comment-page-1#comment-28407 The story of a friendship | Conversion Diary Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:17:24 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2008/05/going-to-be-with-jesus.html#comment-28407 [...] to have some kind of contact with them continued. And then, two days after I said the prayer, I found an injured bird on my driveway. I was so frustrated because it was hard to tend to this bird with a three-year-old, a 21-month-old [...] [...] to have some kind of contact with them continued. And then, two days after I said the prayer, I found an injured bird on my driveway. I was so frustrated because it was hard to tend to this bird with a three-year-old, a 21-month-old [...]

]]> By: Christ, Suffering and Offering It Up « The Life of a Photographer http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/05/going-to-be-with-jesus.html/comment-page-1#comment-24145 Christ, Suffering and Offering It Up « The Life of a Photographer Fri, 29 Oct 2010 11:55:46 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2008/05/going-to-be-with-jesus.html#comment-24145 [...] On Heaven, God, Jesus and Suffering [...] [...] On Heaven, God, Jesus and Suffering [...]

]]> By: Sue http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/05/going-to-be-with-jesus.html/comment-page-1#comment-6220 Sue Fri, 23 May 2008 06:17:00 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2008/05/going-to-be-with-jesus.html#comment-6220 Lovely post, and I find your blog intriguing. I do agree with Jon that this part is NOT correct - "if he were to enter into full communion with us while we were in a sinful state, he would no longer be perfectly good and pure himself." I'm no theologian, but it doesn't seem like we can have the ability to somehow damage God with our sin - then he wouldn't be so powerful and unchanging after all. Perhaps we could not tolerate his presence, if we are filled with sin, but I don't think it would change God in any way. Lovely post, and I find your blog intriguing. I do agree with Jon that this part is NOT correct – “if he were to enter into full communion with us while we were in a sinful state, he would no longer be perfectly good and pure himself.” I’m no theologian, but it doesn’t seem like we can have the ability to somehow damage God with our sin – then he wouldn’t be so powerful and unchanging after all. Perhaps we could not tolerate his presence, if we are filled with sin, but I don’t think it would change God in any way.

]]> By: razzler http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/05/going-to-be-with-jesus.html/comment-page-1#comment-6214 razzler Thu, 22 May 2008 13:52:00 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2008/05/going-to-be-with-jesus.html#comment-6214 What a beautiful way to tell the Gospel.<br/><br/>Thank you. What a beautiful way to tell the Gospel.

Thank you.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/05/going-to-be-with-jesus.html/comment-page-1#comment-6202 Anonymous Wed, 21 May 2008 18:12:00 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2008/05/going-to-be-with-jesus.html#comment-6202 True, Bill. How blessed is this young man to have such a thoughtful and faithful mother! True, Bill. How blessed is this young man to have such a thoughtful and faithful mother!

]]> By: Bill Donaghy http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/05/going-to-be-with-jesus.html/comment-page-1#comment-6200 Bill Donaghy Wed, 21 May 2008 14:29:00 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2008/05/going-to-be-with-jesus.html#comment-6200 Beautiful Jennifer! I was just thinking that one day, scrolling through the thousands of blog posts his momma wrote, your son will see this too and the sorrow of his three year old memory of the bird will be redeemed! "All shall be well!" Beautiful Jennifer! I was just thinking that one day, scrolling through the thousands of blog posts his momma wrote, your son will see this too and the sorrow of his three year old memory of the bird will be redeemed! “All shall be well!”

]]> By: Kevin http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/05/going-to-be-with-jesus.html/comment-page-1#comment-6199 Kevin Wed, 21 May 2008 14:15:00 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2008/05/going-to-be-with-jesus.html#comment-6199 David,<br/>Since at least the middle ages, Catholic theology has taught that all living things have souls - otherwise, they would be unformed inanimate matter, since the soul is what forms matter into life.<br/><br/>Plants have vegetative souls - which allow them to grow and reproduce. Animals have souls which are both vegetative and animal - and that allows them to move around, as well as grow and reproduce. Humans, alone among God's creatures on earth have souls that combine vegetative, animal, and intellectual facilities. So, in addition to growing, reproducing, and moving around, we can also reason and have faith.<br/><br/>Now, is a soul without intellectual faculties destined for heaven? Um. I don't know.<br/><br/>But the bird was created good by God. And heaven contains everything we (including Jen's 3-year-old child) need to be perfectly happy with God forever. <br/><br/>So... perhaps. The bird <i>might</i> be there. David,
Since at least the middle ages, Catholic theology has taught that all living things have souls – otherwise, they would be unformed inanimate matter, since the soul is what forms matter into life.

Plants have vegetative souls – which allow them to grow and reproduce. Animals have souls which are both vegetative and animal – and that allows them to move around, as well as grow and reproduce. Humans, alone among God’s creatures on earth have souls that combine vegetative, animal, and intellectual facilities. So, in addition to growing, reproducing, and moving around, we can also reason and have faith.

Now, is a soul without intellectual faculties destined for heaven? Um. I don’t know.

But the bird was created good by God. And heaven contains everything we (including Jen’s 3-year-old child) need to be perfectly happy with God forever.

So… perhaps. The bird might be there.

]]> By: Jon http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/05/going-to-be-with-jesus.html/comment-page-1#comment-6198 Jon Wed, 21 May 2008 04:06:00 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2008/05/going-to-be-with-jesus.html#comment-6198 David, it may be a mistake to focus on what has a soul and what doesn't as a way to think about what happens to animals when they die. Faithful Chirstians clearly can't hold to a hope that doesn't include the physical body, since Jesus wasn't a ghost or spirit after the Resurrection. It seems to me that if we get to be with our Lord physicallyat some point in our future, then God could somehow take animals to himself as well. I have no idea how that could work, but I generally find C. S. Lewis's images of heaven most compelling, and in the last chapters of "The Last Battle" he shows even old, cherished houses having a place in heaven. That image makes sense to me partially because it seems to me that God would never lose any good thing whether it has a soul or not.<br/><br/>Jon David, it may be a mistake to focus on what has a soul and what doesn’t as a way to think about what happens to animals when they die. Faithful Chirstians clearly can’t hold to a hope that doesn’t include the physical body, since Jesus wasn’t a ghost or spirit after the Resurrection. It seems to me that if we get to be with our Lord physicallyat some point in our future, then God could somehow take animals to himself as well. I have no idea how that could work, but I generally find C. S. Lewis’s images of heaven most compelling, and in the last chapters of “The Last Battle” he shows even old, cherished houses having a place in heaven. That image makes sense to me partially because it seems to me that God would never lose any good thing whether it has a soul or not.

Jon

]]> By: David the Pest http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/05/going-to-be-with-jesus.html/comment-page-1#comment-6196 David the Pest Tue, 20 May 2008 20:23:00 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2008/05/going-to-be-with-jesus.html#comment-6196 I also found this to be a beautiful post, as so many of your posts are, but I want to voice my disagreement with one of your points: that animals live eternally, as we humans do. How could they? They have bodies, but not eternal souls. When they die, what lives on forever? I also found this to be a beautiful post, as so many of your posts are, but I want to voice my disagreement with one of your points: that animals live eternally, as we humans do. How could they? They have bodies, but not eternal souls. When they die, what lives on forever?

]]> By: Russ http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/05/going-to-be-with-jesus.html/comment-page-1#comment-6195 Russ Tue, 20 May 2008 14:56:00 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2008/05/going-to-be-with-jesus.html#comment-6195 Jennifer,<br/>Thank you for posting this. I'm printing it out for my Wife to read tonight. Jennifer,
Thank you for posting this. I’m printing it out for my Wife to read tonight.

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