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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOVE your post Red Salamander.  I got so annoyed with having to send a snack in with my daughter because I would give her fruit and everyone else would be eating Drake&#039;s coffee cakes or chocolate covered granola bars(despite the fact that the teacher had said healthy snacks).  Everyone is so used to bribing kids with snacks it&#039;s no wonder more and more kids have weight problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOVE your post Red Salamander.  I got so annoyed with having to send a snack in with my daughter because I would give her fruit and everyone else would be eating Drake&#8217;s coffee cakes or chocolate covered granola bars(despite the fact that the teacher had said healthy snacks).  Everyone is so used to bribing kids with snacks it&#8217;s no wonder more and more kids have weight problems.</p>
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		<title>By: RedSalamander</title>
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		<dc:creator>RedSalamander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am trying to pinpoint exactly when everyone became brainwashed that we cannot possibly go more than 2 hours without eating.  When I was a kid, in the early &#039;70&#039;s, we were rarely given snacks between meals -- everyone knew those led to Cavities, Getting Fat, and Ruining Your Dinner.  Also, food was only available from your kitchen (where your mom controlled the source), or from certain food-selling edifices like supermarkets or restaurants, or perhaps a vending machine if you were lucky.   Bookstores did not sell food.  Gas stations did not sell food.  Stores that were not supermarkets did not sell food, except for Woolworth&#039;s lunch counter (where you had to sit down and order your food).   &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Nowadays, you cannot go 20 feet without being confronted with a display of candy, chips, pretzels, etc., positioned exactly at kid height.  Snacks are served at EVERY social function;  my children would start salivating on their way to Sunday school because they knew their good behavior would be rewarded with copious amounts of Goldfish crackers (thus eliminating any chance that they would eat lunch after church).  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think we had snack time in kindergarten, when we were given two graham crackers and a Dixie cup of Kool-Aid, but now even my third-grader gets snack time -- an hour before lunch, no less, with the predictable result that she never eats her sandwich and apple!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; I attend a ladies&#039; Bible study that starts at 9:30.  Every week, someone is assigned to bring a snack.  &quot;A snack?&quot; I groaned.  &quot;Why on earth do full-grown adult women, most of whom are trying to lose 10 lbs on any given day, require a snack two hours after breakfast?&quot;  Indeed.  And everyone seems to try to outdo each other with the scones, the muffins, the coffeecakes, etc.. It&#039;s fairly obvious why some of us have so much trouble losing weight.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don&#039;t generally pack snacks for my kids when we go out, unless we are going to be out, say, at the beach for five hours.  Even then, I pack minimal food, because I&#039;ve noticed that picky eating is in direct proportion to how many snack items they have ingested during the afternoon.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It drives me nuts when we go to the playground, and other moms start pulling out giant sacks of chips, crackers, cookies, fruit roll-ups, etc., and then my kids stop playing and ask me plaintively what did WE bring. &quot;Nothing...you just had lunch thirty minutes ago!&quot; Then they go and give the puppy-dog eyes to anyone with a crinkly package.  Everyone is glaring at me like I&#039;m some sort of child-starving monster, and I&#039;m growing increasingly annoyed with everyone for making what should be an opportunity for fresh and and exercise into an all-you-can-eat buffet.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I totally think the No S guy is right on with this.  Check out the rest of his site;  he has some great &quot;duh!&quot; solutions to things like slothfulness, drunkeness, and gluttony!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am trying to pinpoint exactly when everyone became brainwashed that we cannot possibly go more than 2 hours without eating.  When I was a kid, in the early &#8217;70&#8242;s, we were rarely given snacks between meals &#8212; everyone knew those led to Cavities, Getting Fat, and Ruining Your Dinner.  Also, food was only available from your kitchen (where your mom controlled the source), or from certain food-selling edifices like supermarkets or restaurants, or perhaps a vending machine if you were lucky.   Bookstores did not sell food.  Gas stations did not sell food.  Stores that were not supermarkets did not sell food, except for Woolworth&#8217;s lunch counter (where you had to sit down and order your food).   </p>
<p>Nowadays, you cannot go 20 feet without being confronted with a display of candy, chips, pretzels, etc., positioned exactly at kid height.  Snacks are served at EVERY social function;  my children would start salivating on their way to Sunday school because they knew their good behavior would be rewarded with copious amounts of Goldfish crackers (thus eliminating any chance that they would eat lunch after church).  </p>
<p>I think we had snack time in kindergarten, when we were given two graham crackers and a Dixie cup of Kool-Aid, but now even my third-grader gets snack time &#8212; an hour before lunch, no less, with the predictable result that she never eats her sandwich and apple!</p>
<p> I attend a ladies&#8217; Bible study that starts at 9:30.  Every week, someone is assigned to bring a snack.  &#8220;A snack?&#8221; I groaned.  &#8220;Why on earth do full-grown adult women, most of whom are trying to lose 10 lbs on any given day, require a snack two hours after breakfast?&#8221;  Indeed.  And everyone seems to try to outdo each other with the scones, the muffins, the coffeecakes, etc.. It&#8217;s fairly obvious why some of us have so much trouble losing weight.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t generally pack snacks for my kids when we go out, unless we are going to be out, say, at the beach for five hours.  Even then, I pack minimal food, because I&#8217;ve noticed that picky eating is in direct proportion to how many snack items they have ingested during the afternoon.</p>
<p>It drives me nuts when we go to the playground, and other moms start pulling out giant sacks of chips, crackers, cookies, fruit roll-ups, etc., and then my kids stop playing and ask me plaintively what did WE bring. &#8220;Nothing&#8230;you just had lunch thirty minutes ago!&#8221; Then they go and give the puppy-dog eyes to anyone with a crinkly package.  Everyone is glaring at me like I&#8217;m some sort of child-starving monster, and I&#8217;m growing increasingly annoyed with everyone for making what should be an opportunity for fresh and and exercise into an all-you-can-eat buffet.</p>
<p>I totally think the No S guy is right on with this.  Check out the rest of his site;  he has some great &#8220;duh!&#8221; solutions to things like slothfulness, drunkeness, and gluttony!</p>
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		<title>By: 'becca</title>
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		<dc:creator>'becca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongly agree that Soda should be an S!  Another way to look at it is to consider artificially sweetened foods/drinks to be Sweets because of the effect they have on your metabolism.  Soda drinkers, consider lemonade or water with lemon--see link behind my name.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;SteveG wrote:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;I find that I can substitute fruit as a dessert at least a couple of times a week, but with three kids under 7, the idea of an entirely sweetless dinner 6 days a week is a hard sell at this point…&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I want to mention, for Jennifer and anyone else whose kids are young enough that the family habit might be more easily changed, that one of the best food-related things my parents did for me was to present &quot;dessert&quot; as a separate mini-meal served an hour or two after dinner.  Typically it was something sort of sweet and sort of healthy, like fruit cobbler, oatmeal cookies, or yogurt with jam.  Not only did I develop a taste for that kind of &quot;dessert&quot; rather than a sugar wallop, but I learned to fill up on healthy dinner without saving space for dessert.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;People concerned that eliminating Snacks would mean eating too infrequently: Consider scheduling more than 3 meals.  Plan what to eat for your extra meal(s), and sit down to eat it mindfully.  For some people, eating more often (but the same amount of total food) speeds up the metabolism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly agree that Soda should be an S!  Another way to look at it is to consider artificially sweetened foods/drinks to be Sweets because of the effect they have on your metabolism.  Soda drinkers, consider lemonade or water with lemon&#8211;see link behind my name.</p>
<p>SteveG wrote:<br /><i>I find that I can substitute fruit as a dessert at least a couple of times a week, but with three kids under 7, the idea of an entirely sweetless dinner 6 days a week is a hard sell at this point…</i><br />I want to mention, for Jennifer and anyone else whose kids are young enough that the family habit might be more easily changed, that one of the best food-related things my parents did for me was to present &#8220;dessert&#8221; as a separate mini-meal served an hour or two after dinner.  Typically it was something sort of sweet and sort of healthy, like fruit cobbler, oatmeal cookies, or yogurt with jam.  Not only did I develop a taste for that kind of &#8220;dessert&#8221; rather than a sugar wallop, but I learned to fill up on healthy dinner without saving space for dessert.</p>
<p>People concerned that eliminating Snacks would mean eating too infrequently: Consider scheduling more than 3 meals.  Plan what to eat for your extra meal(s), and sit down to eat it mindfully.  For some people, eating more often (but the same amount of total food) speeds up the metabolism.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 04:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for inspiring me to look how gluttony is a problem in my life!  Now that I realize it, I have to do something about it.  I know I have to pray pray pray!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for inspiring me to look how gluttony is a problem in my life!  Now that I realize it, I have to do something about it.  I know I have to pray pray pray!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, about a month ago, I was doing&lt;br/&gt;considerable thinking about why&lt;br/&gt;I remove 15 # and put them right back on: grazing, sweets, snacks, diet soda etc. Used to lie/rationalize that nobody thought I weighed as much as I did and all the exercise I love to do permitted excess eating. &lt;br/&gt;I confess gluttony regularly, but the priest looks askance and even said once,&quot; You might want to look up the definition of gluttony.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;According to weight charts I am&lt;br/&gt;30 pounds overweight.&lt;br/&gt;A month ago I thought why not just eat three meals a day and really think about what you are putting on the plate. &lt;br/&gt;That plan lasted 3 weeks, lost 8 pounds and then fell off the wagon&lt;br/&gt;without giving it enough time to&lt;br/&gt;become a HABIT.  &lt;br/&gt;So..your post has given me the necessary kick to give it another try.&lt;br/&gt;p.s. Isn&#039;t it interesting that&lt;br/&gt;spiritual posts get NO or one comment. But weight/appearance posts get over 28, including mine?&lt;br/&gt;Vanity?  Attachment to appearance?&lt;br/&gt;gluttony?  Who knows.. &lt;br/&gt;I mean, look, I just posted too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, about a month ago, I was doing<br />considerable thinking about why<br />I remove 15 # and put them right back on: grazing, sweets, snacks, diet soda etc. Used to lie/rationalize that nobody thought I weighed as much as I did and all the exercise I love to do permitted excess eating. <br />I confess gluttony regularly, but the priest looks askance and even said once,&#8221; You might want to look up the definition of gluttony.&#8221;<br />According to weight charts I am<br />30 pounds overweight.<br />A month ago I thought why not just eat three meals a day and really think about what you are putting on the plate. <br />That plan lasted 3 weeks, lost 8 pounds and then fell off the wagon<br />without giving it enough time to<br />become a HABIT.  <br />So..your post has given me the necessary kick to give it another try.<br />p.s. Isn&#8217;t it interesting that<br />spiritual posts get NO or one comment. But weight/appearance posts get over 28, including mine?<br />Vanity?  Attachment to appearance?<br />gluttony?  Who knows.. <br />I mean, look, I just posted too!</p>
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		<title>By: Penny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 02:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use Weight Watchers as well, and I would definitely recommend it.  I dropped a significant amount of weight in a relatively short period of time.  Anyways, another &quot;S&quot; you might want to try avoiding is soda.  I really only drink water these days, and I think that has helped a lot with the weight loss and it is so much healthier than soda or even juice, which has a lot of sugar.  I don&#039;t even really miss all the other crap I used to drink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Weight Watchers as well, and I would definitely recommend it.  I dropped a significant amount of weight in a relatively short period of time.  Anyways, another &#8220;S&#8221; you might want to try avoiding is soda.  I really only drink water these days, and I think that has helped a lot with the weight loss and it is so much healthier than soda or even juice, which has a lot of sugar.  I don&#8217;t even really miss all the other crap I used to drink.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 01:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a little concerned about this. While the idea seems great and will work for some people and on the surface I like it, it doesn&#039;t work for everyone. Yes, my diet and the amount that I eat could use work. I had gestational disabetes when I was pregnant.  I had very strict eating guidelines to follow....this INCLUDES SNACKS!!! I seem to need red meat almost daily to maintain energy. Nursing and pregnant women need more food and more often. And some of us become much more than crabby not tomention sick when going for extended times without food ---especially when we over-extend ourselves!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a little concerned about this. While the idea seems great and will work for some people and on the surface I like it, it doesn&#8217;t work for everyone. Yes, my diet and the amount that I eat could use work. I had gestational disabetes when I was pregnant.  I had very strict eating guidelines to follow&#8230;.this INCLUDES SNACKS!!! I seem to need red meat almost daily to maintain energy. Nursing and pregnant women need more food and more often. And some of us become much more than crabby not tomention sick when going for extended times without food &#8212;especially when we over-extend ourselves!</p>
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		<title>By: Shelly W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shelly W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is exactly what we do in our house if we&#039;re needing to lose a few.  I really think my great-grandma had it right:  &quot;Everything in moderation&quot; she used to always say.  I totally agree.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My daughter is 6 feet tall.  You surely know how hard it is to be 16 and labeled a GIANT by everyone at school.  Poor thing.  I tell her that someday she&#039;ll love it, but for now (and for the past few years) it&#039;s a little hard to take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly what we do in our house if we&#8217;re needing to lose a few.  I really think my great-grandma had it right:  &#8220;Everything in moderation&#8221; she used to always say.  I totally agree.</p>
<p>My daughter is 6 feet tall.  You surely know how hard it is to be 16 and labeled a GIANT by everyone at school.  Poor thing.  I tell her that someday she&#8217;ll love it, but for now (and for the past few years) it&#8217;s a little hard to take.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been doing Weight Watchers for over two years now. We use points to help us be mindful of what we eat and how much. I am down some 25-30 pounds and within my target range. The weekly meeting with others who are fighting this fight is essential for my staying with it. I think one could do the S-diet along with this. But, for whate it&#039;s worth, WW has helped me.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Dean in Wisconsin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been doing Weight Watchers for over two years now. We use points to help us be mindful of what we eat and how much. I am down some 25-30 pounds and within my target range. The weekly meeting with others who are fighting this fight is essential for my staying with it. I think one could do the S-diet along with this. But, for whate it&#8217;s worth, WW has helped me.</p>
<p>Dean in Wisconsin</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for writing about this.  I know I need help with what I eat, but it&#039;s so easy to pretend it&#039;s not a problem.  I&#039;m single, so no one really sees what I eat or how much.  I find it all to easy to say, &quot;Oh, I can have a shake today too,&quot; even if I had one yesterday.  I really like the concept of this &quot;diet&quot; except for the no snacking thing.  I get the idea, but I&#039;ve found myself to be hyper-sensitive to my blood sugar level, and I struggle if I don&#039;t eat at least every 4 hours.  What I can and should do is limit what I eat at snack time to something healthy and a good portion to allow myself to be hungry again at meal time.  I think that I&#039;m going to re-up some good habits on Monday (I had a week of vacation and a super busy week following vacation, so I&#039;m going to try to get back to &quot;normal&quot;), and start working on this, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing about this.  I know I need help with what I eat, but it&#8217;s so easy to pretend it&#8217;s not a problem.  I&#8217;m single, so no one really sees what I eat or how much.  I find it all to easy to say, &#8220;Oh, I can have a shake today too,&#8221; even if I had one yesterday.  I really like the concept of this &#8220;diet&#8221; except for the no snacking thing.  I get the idea, but I&#8217;ve found myself to be hyper-sensitive to my blood sugar level, and I struggle if I don&#8217;t eat at least every 4 hours.  What I can and should do is limit what I eat at snack time to something healthy and a good portion to allow myself to be hungry again at meal time.  I think that I&#8217;m going to re-up some good habits on Monday (I had a week of vacation and a super busy week following vacation, so I&#8217;m going to try to get back to &#8220;normal&#8221;), and start working on this, too.</p>
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