Comments on: Abortion and Holocaust comparisons http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/11/abortion-and-holocaust-comparisons.html Sun, 12 Feb 2012 04:43:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Gillian http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/11/abortion-and-holocaust-comparisons.html/comment-page-1#comment-36452 Gillian Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:47:57 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2008/11/abortion-and-holocaust-comparisons.html#comment-36452 just in case thete are any follow up comments, I want the notifications. just in case thete are any follow up comments, I want the notifications.
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]]> By: Gillian http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/11/abortion-and-holocaust-comparisons.html/comment-page-1#comment-36451 Gillian Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:47:04 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2008/11/abortion-and-holocaust-comparisons.html#comment-36451 This new movie addresses this evil in our society, it helps to illustrate the dehumanization of the unborn, as well as how the general polulation just stands by and lets it happen. It helps people to see the issue with new eyes and is really changing hearts. Defintely worth the watch. http://180movie.com/ This new movie addresses this evil in our society, it helps to illustrate the dehumanization of the unborn, as well as how the general polulation just stands by and lets it happen. It helps people to see the issue with new eyes and is really changing hearts. Defintely worth the watch.

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]]> By: Open Water http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/11/abortion-and-holocaust-comparisons.html/comment-page-1#comment-12911 Open Water Wed, 15 Apr 2009 02:50:00 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2008/11/abortion-and-holocaust-comparisons.html#comment-12911 What a great, respectful and informative blog/site. Thanks to all participating. I read with interest about the scared and needy pregnant women in need of compassion and I agree. However, il-informed women, victims of rape/incest, etc. are a miniscule percentage of all abortions in this country. The vast majority of abortions are for the "convenience" of the mother who simply had unprotected sex. If ultimately the "choice" is inherently the women's (and I think this fact is physically undeniable), her "choice" then, is to NOT become pregnant, either through abstinence or PREVENTIVE contraception rather than REACTIVE contraception. "Unplanned" pregnancy is NOT a valid argument or justification in the vast majority of cases, since pregnancy is entirely plannable -- or preventable. Bottom line: It will always be the woman's choice to stay pregnant or not, regardless of laws. The key to reducing the rate of abortions lies in making the CHOICE sooner. What a great, respectful and informative blog/site. Thanks to all participating. I read with interest about the scared and needy pregnant women in need of compassion and I agree. However, il-informed women, victims of rape/incest, etc. are a miniscule percentage of all abortions in this country. The vast majority of abortions are for the “convenience” of the mother who simply had unprotected sex. If ultimately the “choice” is inherently the women’s (and I think this fact is physically undeniable), her “choice” then, is to NOT become pregnant, either through abstinence or PREVENTIVE contraception rather than REACTIVE contraception. “Unplanned” pregnancy is NOT a valid argument or justification in the vast majority of cases, since pregnancy is entirely plannable — or preventable. Bottom line: It will always be the woman’s choice to stay pregnant or not, regardless of laws. The key to reducing the rate of abortions lies in making the CHOICE sooner.

]]> By: Daiquiri http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/11/abortion-and-holocaust-comparisons.html/comment-page-1#comment-11060 Daiquiri Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:20:00 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2008/11/abortion-and-holocaust-comparisons.html#comment-11060 Brutal. Awful. I just feel sick to my stomach.<br/><br/>I've been overwhelmingly burdened by this topic of abortion lately, and have been contemplating my own post. I happened to stumble across yours today, and it just screamed to me that I have to add my voice too. Thank you for this incredible, articulate, and well thought out post. <br/><br/>Daiquiri Brutal. Awful. I just feel sick to my stomach.

I’ve been overwhelmingly burdened by this topic of abortion lately, and have been contemplating my own post. I happened to stumble across yours today, and it just screamed to me that I have to add my voice too. Thank you for this incredible, articulate, and well thought out post.

Daiquiri

]]> By: جنن أبّر http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/11/abortion-and-holocaust-comparisons.html/comment-page-1#comment-9929 جنن أبّر Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:36:00 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2008/11/abortion-and-holocaust-comparisons.html#comment-9929 As a Jew and a pro-lifer, I must say I thought this was beautifully written and you were right on target. Thank you. As a Jew and a pro-lifer, I must say I thought this was beautifully written and you were right on target. Thank you.

]]> By: Kristin http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/11/abortion-and-holocaust-comparisons.html/comment-page-1#comment-9845 Kristin Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:14:00 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2008/11/abortion-and-holocaust-comparisons.html#comment-9845 Excellent post. Thank you for your honest assesment! --Kristin Excellent post. Thank you for your honest assesment! –Kristin

]]> By: Theresa http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/11/abortion-and-holocaust-comparisons.html/comment-page-1#comment-9540 Theresa Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:59:00 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2008/11/abortion-and-holocaust-comparisons.html#comment-9540 Brian said "As you suggest, the job of the media is to inform the public, rather than entertain. But is there anyone who needs to be informed that abortions are taking place? Have you ever met someone who wasn't aware that abortions were legal?"<br/><br/>People know abortion is legal, but in our 40 Days for Life experience, we talked to people who did not know that abortions were taking place right there in their neighborhood. And yes, I myself knew that abortion was legal, but it is a whole new experience to stand at an abortion clininc and know that you are witnessing people going in there to kill their living babies, often under the false perception that they have no choice. Yes, they made the decision, but the culture does not allow them to make an informed decision. People know abortions are legal, but a pregnant woman often does not know that help is available to her in any area she needs help through the generosity of caring people who do not deny the humanity of her baby any more than she does. Money, legal help, housing, job search assistance, adoption placements, etc. All available, and many of these women have not been given a chance to consider their options, because they don't know they have them.<br/><br/>Pregnant? Scared? Want choices? You are not alone. Call 1-800-395-HELP (Carenet/Heartbeat)<br/><br/>Theresa Brian said “As you suggest, the job of the media is to inform the public, rather than entertain. But is there anyone who needs to be informed that abortions are taking place? Have you ever met someone who wasn’t aware that abortions were legal?”

People know abortion is legal, but in our 40 Days for Life experience, we talked to people who did not know that abortions were taking place right there in their neighborhood. And yes, I myself knew that abortion was legal, but it is a whole new experience to stand at an abortion clininc and know that you are witnessing people going in there to kill their living babies, often under the false perception that they have no choice. Yes, they made the decision, but the culture does not allow them to make an informed decision. People know abortions are legal, but a pregnant woman often does not know that help is available to her in any area she needs help through the generosity of caring people who do not deny the humanity of her baby any more than she does. Money, legal help, housing, job search assistance, adoption placements, etc. All available, and many of these women have not been given a chance to consider their options, because they don’t know they have them.

Pregnant? Scared? Want choices? You are not alone. Call 1-800-395-HELP (Carenet/Heartbeat)

Theresa

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/11/abortion-and-holocaust-comparisons.html/comment-page-1#comment-9490 Anonymous Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:44:00 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2008/11/abortion-and-holocaust-comparisons.html#comment-9490 The two posts that you have done on abortion have been some of the best I've ever read. I have sent them to friends of mine who are pro-choice, and I have also sent them to friends of mine who are pro-life, and they are now reading your blog regularly. I am praying that the one athiest-turned-newly-curious friend will continue to read your blog because I think it is so great.<br/><br/>Thank you for taking the time to writew all of this down.<br/><br/>Amy The two posts that you have done on abortion have been some of the best I’ve ever read. I have sent them to friends of mine who are pro-choice, and I have also sent them to friends of mine who are pro-life, and they are now reading your blog regularly. I am praying that the one athiest-turned-newly-curious friend will continue to read your blog because I think it is so great.

Thank you for taking the time to writew all of this down.

Amy

]]> By: lana http://www.conversiondiary.com/2008/11/abortion-and-holocaust-comparisons.html/comment-page-1#comment-9481 lana Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:55:00 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2008/11/abortion-and-holocaust-comparisons.html#comment-9481 I thought Jon's idea of positive message campaigning was interesting. It resonated because since Jen's first post on this subject I have found myself thinking about a couple of things. Briefly:<br/>#1: the message of pro-choice is a very hopeless one. The future looks entirely bleak. There is no other alternative for the mother. It is best for her. It is best for the child. The child would never have a good life. and so on. It is not only hopeless about the fetus, it is also hopeless about the mother.<br/>In contrast, the Church teaches that our greatest happiness comes when we allow ourselves to be crucified. Very different kind of hope, but perhaps no one has told these mothers that their lives will be better--and happier--if they allow their child to live. <br/>#2: i have been thinking of Mother Theresa and the missionaries of charity. I don't think it was coincidence that she was chosen for a particular task in a particular country where female infanticide rates and gender-selective abortions are off the charts. As I understand it, many couples in India feel that a girl baby will not have any chance at a decent life and is better off, well, dead. Lots of reasons, but among them: poverty, no dowry (= no marriage=no respect in society), discrimination against women of all kinds, and many more.<br/>And then Mother Theresa and a bunch of UNMARRIED women become a vehicle for the salvation of many of these unwanted infants. <br/>Mother Theresa was known to have said that there is no such thing as an unwanted baby because she wants them. I think, in the world's second most populous nation, from a women who left everything familiar to her at a young age to go into a life of service, this is no small statement. It's not like she didn't know what she was getting herself into by making such an offer! I thought Jon’s idea of positive message campaigning was interesting. It resonated because since Jen’s first post on this subject I have found myself thinking about a couple of things. Briefly:
#1: the message of pro-choice is a very hopeless one. The future looks entirely bleak. There is no other alternative for the mother. It is best for her. It is best for the child. The child would never have a good life. and so on. It is not only hopeless about the fetus, it is also hopeless about the mother.
In contrast, the Church teaches that our greatest happiness comes when we allow ourselves to be crucified. Very different kind of hope, but perhaps no one has told these mothers that their lives will be better–and happier–if they allow their child to live.
#2: i have been thinking of Mother Theresa and the missionaries of charity. I don’t think it was coincidence that she was chosen for a particular task in a particular country where female infanticide rates and gender-selective abortions are off the charts. As I understand it, many couples in India feel that a girl baby will not have any chance at a decent life and is better off, well, dead. Lots of reasons, but among them: poverty, no dowry (= no marriage=no respect in society), discrimination against women of all kinds, and many more.
And then Mother Theresa and a bunch of UNMARRIED women become a vehicle for the salvation of many of these unwanted infants.
Mother Theresa was known to have said that there is no such thing as an unwanted baby because she wants them. I think, in the world’s second most populous nation, from a women who left everything familiar to her at a young age to go into a life of service, this is no small statement. It’s not like she didn’t know what she was getting herself into by making such an offer!

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