A name for baby Joy

baby joy A name for baby JoyAs I mention in #2 here, my older children insist that the new baby’s name is “Joy.” It was the strangest thing: my four-year-old son got it into his head one day when I was still pregnant that that was the baby’s name, and has not backed down since then. When guests refer to her by her real name, he or my two-year-old will adamantly correct them that she is to be called “Joy.” They’ve been so insistent that our family has just given up and officially given her that nickname.

Meanwhile, her real name is Catherine. It’s odd because Catherine was never a name I’d felt drawn to — it wasn’t even on the list for consideration with my other daughters. Yet as soon as I found out that this baby was a girl, I knew that that was her name. We never seriously discussed any other options. I didn’t feel like I was choosing a name for her as much as it seemed like I was just articulating the name she already had.

catherine siena A name for baby JoyI wondered if perhaps there was a reason for this, so I prayed to know if there was any particular saint named Catherine whom she was supposed to be named after.

Soon after I said that prayer, a package with a painting of St. Catherine of Siena arrived in the mail. My uncle had been traveling Italy and just so happened to be in Siena on the day she was born, so he got the picture of the famous saint for the baby. He didn’t know what day she was going to be born — it was just a “coincidence” that he was in Siena that day.

I figured that that was probably an indicator that she was meant to be named after Catherine of Siena, but wished I had a little more certainty. Then the other day I was researching something unrelated, and happened to come across this biography of Catherine of Siena. My jaw dropped when I read:

Her family gave her the pet name of Euphrosyne, which is Greek for Joy.

I guess that answers the question.

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86 Responses to “A name for baby Joy”
  1. Multiple Mom T says:

    What a gorgeous name! (giggle: my youngest is Catherine and we call her Catie)

  2. Anne Marie says:

    I just love Catherine of Sienna, she is one of my favorites, but I didn’t know she was nicknamed Joy. It sounds like St. Catherine has been interceding for your little bundle of Joy from the beginning. What a blessing.

  3. scatteringflowers.com says:

    I love your story! It’s much better than mine…

    When I was pregnant with my 2nd, the older son insisted that the baby was a girl and her name was Katie! He wouldn’t even discuss the possibility of having a baby brother. When the time came we had no boy names, but we had been referring to the baby for 6 months as “baby Katie”. Of course he was another boy! We finally chose his name purely because it sounded kind like of Katie (at least the name we call him, we did choose his first name for better reasons! Joel, which means, Jehovah is God).

    Sometimes God speaks to us through our children. In fact, I find that he does this quite a bit.

  4. misschris says:

    Goosebumps of the best kind! Wow!

  5. Anonymous says:

    What a great story!
    I always felt great responsibility in naming our children as names are so personal and powerful. I do feel that I was just affirming the choice that God had made for them because the names just fit right from the beginning. Your “Joy” is such a beautiful blessing!

  6. lisa says:

    Hi. I just found your blog today and LOVE your story. It is so beautiful to see God’s work in action. His mystery is so awesome!

    Many blessings of much more JOY to you always.

  7. lisa says:

    Oh, p.s. I’m going to add you to my blogroll at aeternus!

  8. Anonymous says:

    Fantastic story!

    I love St Catherine, too. One of my daughters has her as a patron. I’ve been reading more of/by St Catherine lately… wowsa! She’s even better than I knew!

    I like how you said you were just “articulating the name she already had.” That is our approach to naming our babies. We pray and ask the Lord to tell us the baby’s name and we always have one name at birth and it’s always the right name. we’ve never named a son Mary, honest! And we normally don’t find out gender via ultrasound. With number 6 we did, but we already knew his name before that.

    Our priest always reminds us that when God calls us into being, he calls us by name. He never says, “hey, you!”

  9. T with Honey says:

    Reading this gave me goosebumps!

    Princess is insisting that her baby brother’s name is Matthew. It has always been on my list of possible names but never really clicked. Could it be that we’re experiencing something similar in my house?

  10. Natalia says:

    I am really envious. My baby girl is 6 months old, and I still don’t know if she has the right name. She’s not even registered yet because of it. I had something similar to you for the previous baby, and yet I cry almost daily because of this one not seeming right. I’ve prayed so often. :(

  11. Shelley says:

    Amazing story!

  12. Melanie B says:

    Oh that story gave me a tingly feeling up my spine. How perfectly delightful. Especially the painting of St Catherine.

  13. Jane says:

    That story is a signal grace. That is such a consolation. God is with us!

  14. Jasmine says:

    WOW! Great story!

  15. Lindsey says:

    Congratulations on your new baby girl! I’m a new reader, I happened to stumble upon your blog a few days ago. Thank you for sharing your story and I look forward to reading more of your posts!

    Many blessings to you,

    Lindsey

  16. Lerin says:

    What a story! :) I really need to ask God what my baby should be named… we have a boy name ready, but change my mindfor a girl constantly!

  17. Anonymous says:

    That story is nuts! I can’t even believe it!!!! I literally am stunned.

    What on earth are the odds?!?!

  18. Laura says:

    I just love when things like that happen. God must have big plans for little Joy!
    God Bless.

  19. Beckie Sibley says:

    Wow! Absolutely INCREDIBLE!

  20. Scarlett says:

    What an incredible story! And baby Catherine/Joy has *2* wondeful names!

  21. Diva Mom Vicki says:

    Sometimes the Lord works in mysterious ways… and other times He just smacks us upside the head with the truth! Awesome story!

  22. catholic09 says:

    That’s awesome! I have a Caterina, also (I kept the traditional Italian spelling/pronunciation of the name).

  23. Pharmgirl says:

    Wow!!! How cool is that?

  24. Joy of Frugal Living says:

    Wow!

    We feel like we aren’t really choosing the name for our baby but just giving him the one that is obviously right as well. It’s not one we considered before, but it sounded right, and when we discovered the meaning it was just perfect. I feel a little less silly about it all now hearing your story. I guess that is just the way these things work sometimes!

  25. Kingdom Mama says:

    VERY cool!

  26. Kris says:

    Wow! That is so cool! Sometimes God uses that “still, small voice” and other times He just whacks us over the head. If God was so specific in His plans for her name, I wonder what kind of incredible plan He has for Joy/Catherine’s life?

  27. Christine says:

    Wow, amazing. When you’re open to God’s voice, you can hear him…even (maybe especially) coming from a four-year-old’s mouth.

  28. Anonymous says:

    Catherine is a beautiful name, as is Joy (my own dd’s spiritual name) and I love love love your story of how she came upon her name. I wish I’d been religious when pregnant with my dd so I could have had a saint helping me with naming her – I got it completely wrong and spent years sorrowing about it. (I knew from the beginning it was wrong, I should have fixed it then, but – wel, family!) Now she is changing it herself but its such a weird and difficult process. So lucky little Catherine! Her name will always be a blessing to her.

  29. Lauren says:

    That’s such a great story!

    In a few years, you can remind your kids that they thought she was a “Joy” when they start getting frustrated with their baby sister stealing their stuff/breaking it/annoying them, etc :D

  30. Elizabeth says:

    We are dealing with name choosing now….even though we have 7 1/2 months more to debate…The kids are in on this one & it makes it a little crazier….My Catherine (for st Catherine of Sienna) is adamant that we pick a "C" name…since Joanne and John get to "share" the same initials! This will be difficult, because I'm partial to Luke or Lucy…
    Oh well, we'll see.
    My Mother was named Elizabeth Joanne, but her 5 year old brother threatened to run away from home if they didn't call her "Joannie", so they Baptized her Joanne Elizabeth! It is wonderful when siblings just KNOW something!

    God Bless your family and your sweet Joy!

  31. caite says:

    your sweet baby could do a lot worse than to have St. Catherine in her spiritual corner.
    Of course, she is my namesake too, so I might be prejudice.

  32. TL. says:

    aw so cute!
    Joy is a beautiful name. I would love to have a girl named Joy!

    Also note that Catherine in greek means “pure”. Your child is “pure joy” :)

  33. Aubrey says:

    Holy cow, that gave me goosebumps all over. What a wonderful story and what a beautiful name (and namesake!) for your baby girl!

  34. Sara says:

    Personally, I think Catherine is a lovely name. Since it’s mine. But that’s a great story—I had no idea where you were going with it. I just thought her name would be Catherine and she’d always be explaining why everyone calls her Joy.

  35. Janice says:

    What a beautiful post. It brought tears to my eyes! Congratulations on your daughter Catherine aka Joy.

  36. Madeleine says:

    “I didn’t feel like I was choosing a name for her as much as it seemed like I was just articulating the name she already had.”I felt something similar with my youngest. He was Harrison all the way through my pregnancy, that was the boys name I had been carrying for years before he was even comtemplating.

    He was born, I was shattered – as you are LOL. We got told within 10 minutes he very likely had Downs syndrome, we then shattered and in shock experiencing a range of emotions from I don’t want a baby who has Downs through to fierce maternal protection that I would love him even more if they were right.

    My husband picked him up and said “hello Harrison” and inside me was a powerful thought/emotion “he is not Harrison, he is Noah.” It nearly came straight out of my mouth.

    I sat on it thinking I was tired and emotional but it wouldn’t go away. I said to my husband “I don’t think his name is Harrison”, he asked me what I wanted it to be then, I still held back because it seemed silly to say “its not what I want it to be it is what it is.” So I floated, “what do you think of Noah?”

    He immediately felt drawn to it to yet we hadn’t discussed it and neither of us could think of him as Harrison again. It was strange because we are fairly straight laced protestants yet I felt as if it came from God.

    EnJoy Catherine :-)

  37. Mary DeTurris Poust says:

    OK, I’ve got chills from that one. Congratulations — and much Joy! :)

  38. moey says:

    You better hold on to that painting of St Catherine — I think your baby is going to look just like her when she gets older. :-)

  39. Marian says:

    Beautiful!

  40. April says:

    That is such a great story! Thank you for sharing it.

    We knew our baby (born a week after your Joy) was to be named her name, Emmeliese, since before her older sister was born four years ago. Right before Emmeliese was conceived, I had a dream that I was calling her to me. I woke up and told my husband “I was calling for Emmeliese!” When I found out I was pregnant, I knew it was her.

    It was really neat to know for so long that we were just waiting for her to come to us, whenever that might be. When she arrived, I felt like her knew her already.

    God is so good, eh?

  41. breagha says:

    Your post gave me shivers! God always, always has a plan, though we may not want to see it. How wonderful and awesome and amazing that your little ones _insisted_ on calling her joy.
    Methinks that your wee newbie has a patron saint looking after her already :)

  42. Margie says:

    Fabulous. I, too, had a moment when I KNEW the name we’d considered for our first daughter was It. It’s marvelous thing, knowing it is the Right One.

  43. Joe Strain says:

    joy joy is one of my favorite sayings.. now when i speak this I will certainly think of your daughter and St. Catherine of Sienna
    DeColores

  44. Roxane B. Salonen says:

    Jennifer, what stands out to me on this post is that you took the initiative to research and find the connection that you felt intuitively must be significant in your heart. As an atheist, this “coincidence” would have been just that, and therefore, none of the beauty and goosebumps that have emerged since would have happened. Without faith, the world is the world. With faith, it is much more. I got the goosebumps too, by the way, because of your faith more than anything. Keep sharing. Your before and after faith perspectives are truly a blessing to us all.

  45. Sara says:

    Here’s my favorite quote from St. Catherine:

    Eternal God, eternal Trinity, you have made the blood of Christ so precious through his sharing in your divine nature. You are a mystery as deep as the sea; the more I search, the more I find, and the more I find the more I search for you. But I can never be satisfied; what I receive will ever leave me desiring more. When you fill my soul I have an even greater hunger, and I grow more famished for your light. I desire above all to see you, the true light, as you really are.I have tasted and seen the depth of your mystery and the beauty of your creation with the light of my understanding. I have clothed myself with your likeness and have seen what I shall be. Eternal Father, you have given me a share in your power and the wisdom that Christ claims as his own, and your Holy Spirit has given me the desire to love you. You are my Creator, eternal Trinity, and I am your creature. You have made of me a new creation in the blood of your Son, and I know that you are moved with love at the beauty of your creation, for you have enlightened me.Eternal Trinity, Godhead, mystery deep as the sea, you could give me no greater gift than the gift of yourself. For you are a fire ever burning and never consumed, which itself consumes all the selfish love that fills my being. Yes, you are a fire that takes away the coldness, illuminates the mind with its light and causes me to know your truth. By this light, reflected as it were in a mirror, I recognise that you are the highest good, one we can neither comprehend nor fathom. And I know that you are beauty and wisdom itself. The food of angels, you gave yourself to man in the fire of your love.You are the garment which covers our nakedness, and in our hunger you are a satisfying food, for you are sweetness and in you there is no taste of bitterness, O triune God!

    -From the dialogue On Divine Providence by Saint Catherine of Siena, virgin and doctor

  46. Serena says:

    That is amazing and wonderful! Catherine and Joy both suit her. How wonderful God is.

  47. Cathy Adamkiewicz says:

    Beautiful story. I love it for many reasons – here’s two of them.
    One, my name is Catherine, and I was named for St. Catherine of Siena.
    The second reason is a long story – suffice it to say I had a similar coincidence when choosing a confirmation name for my infant daughter who died at four months. This time St. Catherine of Alexandria let us know she was to be our baby’s special patron. St. Catherines are amazing, aren’t they!

  48. Tami Boesiger says:

    Wow. That pretty much takes away any chance her name is a coincidence.

  49. Beth (A Mom's Life) says:

    Wow! Don’t you just love it when God gives you your answer so plainly and clearly?!

  50. Megan@SortaCrunchy says:

    I love this! It gave me goosebumps when I got to the end.

    This little Joy of yours is near to my heart because of our Aliza (hebrew – joyful) Joy. Her daddy calls her Joy most of the time and she is truly the personification of JOY. It makes my heart happy to think of your Joy growing into her name. Perfect.

  51. Joanna says:

    My dad was in seminary when my mom was pregnant with me and they really wanted a Christian name for me. My name is Joanna Joy. Joanna for one of the women that went to the empty tomb. And Joy because it stands for:
    Jesus
    Others
    Yourself
    The order you should love people.

    Congrats on your baby girl!

  52. Susan Thompson says:

    What an amazing story!

    My mom referred to all my kids as Little Ignatz before they were born.

  53. Josephene says:

    That’s so awesome! What a happy thought — the connection between the names and your daughter with the saint! So lovely.
    I had chosen St. Catherine of Siena for my confirmation name. I had been reading a little biography of her at the time, and was in awe of her love of suffering for Christ.
    God bless Joy and her clever, inspired siblings!

  54. Maggie says:

    What a beautiful story! Catherine of Siena is a wonderful saint.

    It’s so good to know that she’s been interceeding for your daughter all this time! Praise God!

    :-)

  55. KC says:

    Goosebumps here as well. I love stories like this.

  56. prolifemom says:

    This story made my day……God is so good……and my daughter’s name is Catherine, and I too have a devotion to C of Sienna for her, My Catherine is the most thoughtful, beautiful, person I know….she shines from her soul…some days I cannot believe the Lord entrusted such a pure soul to me! I am sure your Catherine will be the same….what a special baby already! And I LOVE your blog, I share it with many people, it has taught me, a cradle Catholic, so much, keep up the great work, you are making a difference in the world, and you do not even know it!

  57. Rachael says:

    she is beautiful + i love the name!

  58. coffeemom says:

    PErfect. Just utterly perfect. What a gift. M

  59. Elizabeth says:

    Wonderful story!

    I love the fact that St Catherine was the youngest of 25 children, too — good thing her parents didn’t decide they’d had enough.

  60. Sarah says:

    I love it!

  61. Shannon says:

    That gave me chills!

  62. annemcd says:

    Our little girl’s name is Catherine Aurelia- pure gold. I was reading in our diocesan paper a few weeks after her birth that she was born right around the feast of St. Aurelian. I never knew there was such a person!

  63. Anonymous says:

    What a great story!

    Laurie

  64. Brandi says:

    That gave me chills. How awesome!!!!!

    I love these stories when you just know, “God did that”.

    When I was pregnant and then miscarried my 3rd child I was so devastated. We had waited so long for that baby. I got pregnant again shortly after and Audrey Genevieve was born on November 4th, 2006. I was scheduled for a c-section on the 7th and had begged for a VBAC. The doctors had said no, it was too risky but my body and God had other plans for me and she came early and too fast to section. My miscarriage was November 4th, 2005. She was born exactly a year after our last baby met Jesus. God spoke to me that day.

  65. Bethgem says:

    That brought tears to my eyes. What a lovely story.

  66. runningatlarge says:

    Wow, how amazing!

  67. Carrien says:

    My 5 year old was determined that our baby should be named rejoicing. Not joy or joyful, but rejoicing. So I searched the internet for names that meant rejoicing and that is her second name. He was very upset at first when he heard it, until I told him what it meant. He has only ever called her by her middle name.

    (her first name means wisdom. Wisdom rejoicing is a pretty good name I thought. esp with the 3rd name I couldn’t resist adding. In english her name would translate, wisdom rejoicing, God is good.)

  68. Anonymous says:

    wow…I can't believe this….so amazing!!!!!!

  69. Rachel Gray says:

    Wow, what a great story!

    And I remember reading your posts about how stressful the unexpected pregnancy was. So cool to have all this confirmation that God had plans, even for what your daughter would be named and nicknamed. It reminds me of 2 Samuel 12:

    "Then David comforted his wife Bathsheba, and he went to her and lay with her. She gave birth to a son, and they named him Solomon. The LORD loved him; and because the LORD loved him, he sent word through Nathan the prophet to name him Jedidiah."

  70. Patrick says:

    I had a nun teach me first grade… Sr. Euphrosyne. I'm wondering why she didn't go by Sr. Joy.

  71. CatholicMom says:

    Wow, what a wonderful story and I also love St. Catherine! I remember when I came into the Catholic Church, St. Catherine of Siena was one of the saints I read about and I was so inspired by her extreme devotion to God. Indeed, her every breath seemed to be devoted to Jesus. I remember reading she even received a ring from our Lord as a sign of her devotion to him (like a nun).

  72. Monica says:

    Our youngest is a boy named Simeon. We were praying over that and some other names. We were also moving and selling our house and praying about all that. One morning my husband was praying and asking God whether he was really listening to our prayers. Then he decided to pray about the baby names. He felt God telling him to look up what the names mean. Simeon means "God is listening." Mmmmmhmmm. So that's his name. :)

  73. Tereza Crump aka MyTreasuredCreations says:

    Isn't God cool??!! :) I tell you sometimes our little ones hear better from Him than we do. I love your blog BTW.

  74. Mary Elizabeth says:

    so neat. God is so cool. My sister has always been named Susan, and her birth was told to my father when he was praying at a retreat. "Mary will have a sister names Susan" came to him and so he wrote it down and passed it to my mother, who shook her head no at him, then found out she was pregnant a couple weeks later… I predict great things for my sister and for baby Joy.

  75. Rashad Armstrong says:

    This is an amazing story. It is always good to go with your 1st choice that comes to heart and never second guess yourself. When it comes down to being uncertain, like they say prayer is really powerful. God can answer our prayers when we doubt and a great example of this was certainly shown in your story.

  76. What a marvelous read, It sent shivers all over me (not bad, good ones). I read all the way through the biography and I can understand why your jaw dropped. Even for the fact that your uncle sent you a picture of St. Catherine in the mail.

    I think your little girls name was meant to be and what a beautiful name Catherine is.

    Amazing read.
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  77. And this is the way God speaks to us, once we learn how to listen…

    Congratulations on your new baby girl. I guess we already know who her patron saint will be upon Confirmation…
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  78. Ana says:

    Incredible story! Praise God

  79. Christine says:

    Wow, this gave me chills! What a beautiful story.

  80. Joy says:

    What a beautiful example of God’s love. I particularly enjoyed this story because my name is Joy. When I was born my parents had only come up with names for boys and didn’t have a girl’s name, but my mother tells me she looked at me and knew that I was “Joy”. When it came time for me to have my own children, my husband and I couldn’t find a boy’s name we liked when our daughter was born, only a girl’s name; and same for when our son came later – we only had a boy’s name and not a girl’s name.

  81. Kimberlie says:

    OK, so I know that I am a good two + years behind on this story, but I just read it for the first time. I got goose-bumps when I read the last two sentences. Yes, sometimes your children are just meant to have the names you have given them. I tell people all the time that God named my children because their names are nothing that I ever had on any list of mine.
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  82. Rachel says:

    I absolutely love this story, ever since I first found it a while back! I like to read it occasionally. xD I was wondering, did you name the baby Catherine Joy, or is her middle name something else, and Joy is just a pet name, like Euphrosyne was just a pet name? :)

  83. Hillary potter says:

    While I was expecting our fourth child, the surprise baby, we were drawn to the name Chiara. I also liked that it was part of an art term, since I am an artist. Chiara means light or pure. I also wanted to give her a biblical name. As we listed names from the bible, I said Elizabeth, and I knew that was her name! Elizabeth means Gods promise.

    All of our children have one Italian name, a biblical name and a nickname ending in the ee sound. Finding a nickname for Chiara was challenging. We finally settled on Ari. Only problem being is that I felt we had made up a name.

    After she was born I happened upon a tv show that had a character named Ari! It is Hebrew for lion. That validated her nickname for me. She is our little lion, no doubt!

  84. Emily says:

    We named our daughter Siena Joy, after St. Catherine, but had no idea the Joy nickname until a friend of mine that had read your post told me! Crazy!

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