Comments on: 7 Quick Takes Friday (vol. 45) http://www.conversiondiary.com/2009/08/7-quick-takes-friday-vol-45.html Sun, 12 Feb 2012 04:43:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: 7 Quick Takes (I have no idea what volume I’m on) | Kate Wicker http://www.conversiondiary.com/2009/08/7-quick-takes-friday-vol-45.html/comment-page-1#comment-34113 7 Quick Takes (I have no idea what volume I’m on) | Kate Wicker Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:56:42 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2009/08/7-quick-takes-friday-vol-45.html#comment-34113 [...] by Jen’s Conversion Diary for more quick takes that are sure to have the sparkling wit I seem to be lacking these [...] [...] by Jen’s Conversion Diary for more quick takes that are sure to have the sparkling wit I seem to be lacking these [...]

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.conversiondiary.com/2009/08/7-quick-takes-friday-vol-45.html/comment-page-1#comment-15635 Anonymous Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:49:13 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2009/08/7-quick-takes-friday-vol-45.html#comment-15635 Amity commented that the Ezzo method might crush the spirit of children. I don't understand that conclusion. Here is a typical exchange heard in our house a dozen times a day:<br /><br />"Michael." (the child's name is a command to immediately stop what they are doing and touch my hand)<br />"Yes, Daddy, I'm running." (touches my hand and looks at me)<br />"You left your legos on the stairs. Your baby brother could step on them and fall down the stairs and hurt himself. You need to put away your things and protect your brother" (always give a moral reason)<br />"If you leave them on the stairs again, you will lose the freedom to play with them" (make sure the consequence fits the offense and is understood)<br />"Yes, Daddy."<br /><br />90% of Ezzo is that first step, called "first time obedience". Once it's automatic for them to stop what they're doing and run to you when they hear their name, you have undivided attention to correct them with a moral explanation and a consequence.<br /><br />No yelling, no threatening / repeating, no "if you don't come before I count to three...". <br /><br />You put the onus on them to make the right decision. Kids relish the freedoms they earn, and they work to regain freedoms they lose.<br /><br />This doesn't crush their spirit. It fills their moral warehouse and makes you a more effective parent.<br /><br />Jonathan Amity commented that the Ezzo method might crush the spirit of children. I don't understand that conclusion. Here is a typical exchange heard in our house a dozen times a day:

"Michael." (the child's name is a command to immediately stop what they are doing and touch my hand)
"Yes, Daddy, I'm running." (touches my hand and looks at me)
"You left your legos on the stairs. Your baby brother could step on them and fall down the stairs and hurt himself. You need to put away your things and protect your brother" (always give a moral reason)
"If you leave them on the stairs again, you will lose the freedom to play with them" (make sure the consequence fits the offense and is understood)
"Yes, Daddy."

90% of Ezzo is that first step, called "first time obedience". Once it's automatic for them to stop what they're doing and run to you when they hear their name, you have undivided attention to correct them with a moral explanation and a consequence.

No yelling, no threatening / repeating, no "if you don't come before I count to three…".

You put the onus on them to make the right decision. Kids relish the freedoms they earn, and they work to regain freedoms they lose.

This doesn't crush their spirit. It fills their moral warehouse and makes you a more effective parent.

Jonathan

]]> By: 'Becca http://www.conversiondiary.com/2009/08/7-quick-takes-friday-vol-45.html/comment-page-1#comment-15634 'Becca Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:47:59 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2009/08/7-quick-takes-friday-vol-45.html#comment-15634 <b>Amy:</b> Are YOU trying to give your baby a bottle? My son would have nothing to do with a bottle if I was even in the house, but when I was out he took it eagerly. It's weird because I pumped for him twice a day, 5 days a week, for 10 months but NEVER saw him drink from a bottle!<br />Another thing to try is a sippy cup. I've heard that some babies will take that but not a bottle.<br />I'll pray for you. Amy: Are YOU trying to give your baby a bottle? My son would have nothing to do with a bottle if I was even in the house, but when I was out he took it eagerly. It's weird because I pumped for him twice a day, 5 days a week, for 10 months but NEVER saw him drink from a bottle!
Another thing to try is a sippy cup. I've heard that some babies will take that but not a bottle.
I'll pray for you.

]]> By: Laura F. http://www.conversiondiary.com/2009/08/7-quick-takes-friday-vol-45.html/comment-page-1#comment-15631 Laura F. Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:57:03 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2009/08/7-quick-takes-friday-vol-45.html#comment-15631 @ #3.... Hey Jenn, when reading this item I just remembered something I heard that might help with your scorpion situation... try leaving lavander leaves/flowers (like a whole branch kinda thing) in your window sills and doors... appareantly that keeps scorpions out of the house.... never tried it as mercifully I don't have that problem, but heard somewhere that it works!!! @ #3…. Hey Jenn, when reading this item I just remembered something I heard that might help with your scorpion situation… try leaving lavander leaves/flowers (like a whole branch kinda thing) in your window sills and doors… appareantly that keeps scorpions out of the house…. never tried it as mercifully I don't have that problem, but heard somewhere that it works!!!

]]> By: Susanne http://www.conversiondiary.com/2009/08/7-quick-takes-friday-vol-45.html/comment-page-1#comment-15629 Susanne Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:07:42 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2009/08/7-quick-takes-friday-vol-45.html#comment-15629 My 13yo son ate one of those scorpion pops when Hubs brought it back from a business trip. He said the scorpion tasted hot (spicy), but not bad. <br /><br />Ick. My 13yo son ate one of those scorpion pops when Hubs brought it back from a business trip. He said the scorpion tasted hot (spicy), but not bad.

Ick.

]]> By: cecilia http://www.conversiondiary.com/2009/08/7-quick-takes-friday-vol-45.html/comment-page-1#comment-15627 cecilia Mon, 10 Aug 2009 04:16:35 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2009/08/7-quick-takes-friday-vol-45.html#comment-15627 is the squorpion in the lollypop real or is it some sort of candy? is the squorpion in the lollypop real or is it some sort of candy?

]]> By: monica_divineoffice.org http://www.conversiondiary.com/2009/08/7-quick-takes-friday-vol-45.html/comment-page-1#comment-15617 monica_divineoffice.org Sat, 08 Aug 2009 11:27:17 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2009/08/7-quick-takes-friday-vol-45.html#comment-15617 Great 7 Quick Takes post, as usual, I have a background in educational psychology, you should try to encourage good behavior more than punish bad behavior. Make a board, like the one that you have already, and draw a happy face for every good action, make a sad face for every bad one. At the end of the day he gets reworded if there are more happy faces. Try to encourage competition, use the same board for his brothers, it works every time :). Patience and courage and faith! God bless!<br /><br /><a href="http://divineoffice.org/" rel="nofollow"> Liturgy of the Hours</a> Great 7 Quick Takes post, as usual, I have a background in educational psychology, you should try to encourage good behavior more than punish bad behavior. Make a board, like the one that you have already, and draw a happy face for every good action, make a sad face for every bad one. At the end of the day he gets reworded if there are more happy faces. Try to encourage competition, use the same board for his brothers, it works every time :) . Patience and courage and faith! God bless!

Liturgy of the Hours

]]> By: Mindyleigh http://www.conversiondiary.com/2009/08/7-quick-takes-friday-vol-45.html/comment-page-1#comment-15615 Mindyleigh Sat, 08 Aug 2009 09:02:29 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2009/08/7-quick-takes-friday-vol-45.html#comment-15615 Thank you for sharing your life with us. It has been a blessing to read about Rita. Thank you for sharing your life with us. It has been a blessing to read about Rita.

]]> By: LizC http://www.conversiondiary.com/2009/08/7-quick-takes-friday-vol-45.html/comment-page-1#comment-15614 LizC Sat, 08 Aug 2009 07:33:11 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2009/08/7-quick-takes-friday-vol-45.html#comment-15614 On your #4: I knew a fellow once (big guy--6'5", 250 pounds) who was being introduced to the Gospel by a very blunt and bold man, who just flat out told him that several things he was doing were contrary to God's laws, and he ought to stop immediately. When Jim stared down at this little man telling him what to do, and asked if he was really sure he wanted to say all that stuff to Jim, the man replied, "You may be big enough to pound me, but it's my job to warn you. You've been warned. It's on you, now."<br /><br />Jim did change. God gives us agency, but we're always free to hear the prophets and act, or hear and ignore--either way, we will KNOW there has been a prophet in our midst. <br /><br />(I really enjoy reading you. THANKS.) On your #4: I knew a fellow once (big guy–6'5", 250 pounds) who was being introduced to the Gospel by a very blunt and bold man, who just flat out told him that several things he was doing were contrary to God's laws, and he ought to stop immediately. When Jim stared down at this little man telling him what to do, and asked if he was really sure he wanted to say all that stuff to Jim, the man replied, "You may be big enough to pound me, but it's my job to warn you. You've been warned. It's on you, now."

Jim did change. God gives us agency, but we're always free to hear the prophets and act, or hear and ignore–either way, we will KNOW there has been a prophet in our midst.

(I really enjoy reading you. THANKS.)

]]> By: Amity http://www.conversiondiary.com/2009/08/7-quick-takes-friday-vol-45.html/comment-page-1#comment-15612 Amity Sat, 08 Aug 2009 03:55:38 +0000 http://gator1217.hostgator.com/~fulwiler/2009/08/7-quick-takes-friday-vol-45.html#comment-15612 I love that "God's all like" this and you're "all like" that. So comfortable! So funny! So quick!<br /><br />About Ezzo/Babywise: I'm glad it worked for Jonathan's family, but it has caused babies in other families to become seriously ill from dehydration, and I am convinced that, at least for some (likely most) children, it crushes their spirit, which is surely not what God would want. If anyone reading this is considering using their books, please pray (and do research) before you do. Thanks. I love that "God's all like" this and you're "all like" that. So comfortable! So funny! So quick!

About Ezzo/Babywise: I'm glad it worked for Jonathan's family, but it has caused babies in other families to become seriously ill from dehydration, and I am convinced that, at least for some (likely most) children, it crushes their spirit, which is surely not what God would want. If anyone reading this is considering using their books, please pray (and do research) before you do. Thanks.

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